Pictured is the late Ohio 11th congressional District congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs Jones of Cleveland

(Editor's note: See the Tubbs Jones one-on-one interview by investigative journalist Kathy Wray Coleman that was taken shortly before her death of Aug. 20, 2008 below this brief story, her last major interview before her untimely death and a Call and Post cover story.)

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REMEMBERING STEPHANIE TUBBS JONES

Clevelandurbannews.com and Kathywraycolemanonlinenewsblog.com remember Stephanie Tubbs Jones the week of the 11th-year anniversary of her death on Aug 20, 2008, Tubbs Jones's Ohio's first Black congresswoman who represented Ohio's 11th congressional district, which includes parts of the city of Cleveland and several of its eastern suburbs of Cuyahoga County, the federal lawmaker dying suddenly of a brain aneurysm while in office and just nine days before Barack Obama accepted the Democratic nomination for president of the United States of America.

America's first Black president, Obama went on to beat then Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) of Arizona and won a second four-year term in 2012, beating then Republican nominee Mitt Romney.

Tubbs Jones backed Hillary Clinton, then a U.S. senator representing New York, for president in 2008 , and was her co-campaign chairperson, her decision not to dump Clinton after Obama, then a junior U.S. senator representing Illinois, became popular creating an uproar in her largely Black congressional district.

Greater Clevelanders have not forgotten her.

"She was such a phenomenal woman and I miss her," said greater Clevelander Meredith Turner in a previous interview, Turner a former aide to U.S. Sen. Sherrod Brown of Cleveland.

"Everybody misses her," former Cleveland Ward 2 Councilman Zack Reed has said.

A Cleveland Democrat, former municipal and common pleas judge, and a prior Cuyahoga County prosecutor,  the county's first Black prosecutor, Tubbs Jones' work is now furthered by 11th Congressional District Congresswoman Marcia L. Fudge, a Warrensville Hts. Democrat who has also developed her own niche. (Editor's note: Tubbs Jones followed the now late U.S. Rep. Louis Stokes of Shaker Heights  and was elected to the 11th congressional district seat in 1998. Stokes, who supported her candidacy, was the first Black congressperson from Ohio and the brother of the late Carl B. Stokes, who was elected mayor of Cleveland in 1967, and was the first Black mayor of a major American city).

Among other spots across town, the new Huron Medical Center, located at 13944 Euclid Ave. in East Cleveland, a Cleveland suburb, is named Stephanie Tubbs Jones Health Center.

Below is the last major interview with Tubbs Jones by journalist Kathy Wray Coleman that was published on Sept. 24, 2008 as a cover story in the Cleveland Call and Post Newspaper, Ohio's Black Press with distributions in Cleveland, Cincinnati and Columbus. It came with Tubbs Jones' on record approval.

BELOW: 2008 INTERVIEW UNDERTAKEN SHORTLY AFTER BARACK OBAMA WON THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION FOR PRESIDENT OVER HILLARY CLINTON.  THE INTERVIEW WAS HELD SHORTLY BEFORE HER DEATH AND AFTER CLINTON LOST THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION TO OBAMA, BUT PUBLISHED AFTER HER DEATH AND AFTER OBAMA HAD WON THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION FOR PRESIDENT OVER CLINTON

By Kathy Wray Coleman

(National and Cleveland, Oh. Area News)

This is an exclusive interview with U.S. Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones held shortly before her untimely death where the beloved congresswoman of the 11th Congressional District spoke on various issues, including her tenure as the national campaign co-chairperson for New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton relative to Clinton's failed pursuit, in 2008, of the Democratic nomination for president of the United States of America. Such audio-taped interview, which occurred with Tubbs Jones' on record approval, was undertaken three days after Clinton gave her historic concession speech in New York City. There she urged her supporters and others to rally behind Illinois senator Barack Obama, the first Black presidential nominee of a major American political party.

The one-on-one interview highlights the complicated concepts of race and gender in American politics. As Clinton's national campaign chairperson, Tubbs Jones did not waver in her support of Clinton, even after an overwhelming number of Blacks from across the country and in her own congressional district rallied behind Obama. Though Clinton won Ohio's Democratic primary by some 200,000 votes, 70 percent of Tubbs Jones' constituents in the majority Black 11th Congressional District voted for Obama where tensions ran high with no holds barred. Still, Tubbs Jones remained loyal saying she came aboard for Clinton long before Obama revealed his intentions to seek the Democratic nomination for president and that her word was her bond.

In this in depth yet spontaneous interview Tubbs Jones talks about the congressional legislation and other activities she sought on behalf of the Black community. She also gives her perspective as to the ups and downs that ambitious women encounter when they seek to positively manipulate the status quo. She says that men are typically in and women must still struggle for acceptance at all levels of the continuum, in politics, in corporate America, and otherwise. The interview reveals a loss to the Black community as Tubbs Jones speaks of the Blacks in public office in Cleveland and in other Cuyahoga County communities that she helped to get elected.

CALL & POST REPORTER KATHY WRAY COLEMAN:

Can McCain beat Barack?

Tubbs Jones:

I think that Barack can beat McCain but we have a lot of work to do for him to beat John McCain.

Ohio is so very important isn't it?

Tubbs Jones:

I think Ohio is very important. No [modern day Republican or Democrat since John F. Kennedy in 1960] president has won the presidency without winning Ohio.

C&P:

Would you be as responsive to Obama as you were to Hillary?

Tubbs Jones:

Absolutely. At this juncture Hillary says it and I'm saying the same thing, that that's history and we're moving forward and the only thing we can do now is get senator Obama elected.

C&P:

Can he win if you don't help him?

Tubbs Jones:

I'm willing to help, but I don't predispose that I am that important.

C&P:

Did Hillary hurt you in your district?

Tubbs Jones:

I believe that there were many people who did not like the fact that I supported Hillary, but I don't believe it hurt my ability to represent the district or my record of support for other candidates. And you know what is so amazing Kathy, where were all these people when I was trying to help Raymond Pierce get elected mayor of the City of Cleveland? And where were all these people when there were other African-American elected officials that have been running for public office and we couldn't find them to support us? The list goes on.

C&P:

So what you are saying is that you supported a whole lot of African-American candidates, right?

Tubbs Jones:

Of course.

C&P:

Name a few

Tubbs Jones:

[Cleveland Mayor] Frank Jackson, Raymond Pierce, all the municipal court judges in Cleveland, Peter Lawson Jones for county commissioner, and upcoming Lillian Greene to be the county recorder.

C&P:

I guess if you said put Hillary on the ticket that would be another thing wouldn't it?

Tubbs Jones:

[laughter].. I think she'd be a great vice president but I don't know whether that's what she wants or whether that's what he [Obama] wants, and I'm not pressed.

C&P

Did you see any racism or sexism in this Democratic campaign?

Tubbs Jones:

Absolutely. I want to send you this article from the New York Times about sexism in the city and sexism in the campaign.

C&P:

Do you believe that this time sexism was more prevalent than racism?

Tubbs Jones:

Yes, absolutely.

C&P:

Men still like to run things, don't they?

Tubbs Jones:

Yes, absolutely. Men like to run things, and it's alright. Men like to run things and women like to run things, and that's a competition.

C&P:

Sexism can be stronger than racism in some arenas?

Tubbs Jones:

Absolutely. All you have to do is look at how many women there are in the Senate, how many women there are in the House compared to the number of men, how many women governors there are, women elected officials, women in the board rooms, and CEOs in large companies. We have come a long way, but we've got a long way to go. I felt blessed to have had the opportunity to advise a presidential candidate in 2008 having come from a father who was a skycap and a mother who was a factory worker. I will always remember the experience I had and I am thankful for it. Sen. Clinton has thrown her wholehearted support behind Barack Obama and I throw mine as well.

C&P:

What are some of the [bills] that you have sponsored or co-sponsored on behalf of the Black community?

Tubbs Jones:

The fugitive safe surrender and the uterine fibroid tumor [bills], and The Second Chance Act. It [The Second Chance Act] passed [into legislation] in the last 60 days. The Second Chance Act focuses on giving ex-offenders the opportunity for jobs, housing, drug treatment, family counseling and job training.

C&P:

Are Black women disproportionately affected by fibroids?

Tubbs Jones:

Absolutely, and no one knows the cause. They say that the highest incidence of hysterectomy is the result of uterine fibroids. I have been working on legislation around instate renal disease and kidney failure that predominates in African-Americans. So you know, people called in about she hasn't done anything for veterans and I created a veterans advisory committee, that I hadn't done anything for Black men, and the list went on. And as I said, I stand on my record for support for my community and my constituents.

C&P:

Is there anything else that you want me to get across to the Black community?

Tubbs Jones:

[Get across] how much I love and support them. And I say to them that you may not have liked my decision or you may not have supported my decision for Hillary Clinton, but look at my record and support of the community and the work that I have done in the past 26 years.

C&P:

Thank you.

Tubbs Jones:

You're welcome.

(Editor's note: The titles of some of the dignitaries below have changed since this story was published in August of 2008 at the time of the funeral of the late Ohio congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs Jones, which was held in her hometown of Cleveland, Ohio. For instance, Barack Obama was then a junior senator from Illinois who, that year, went on to become president with then senator Joe Biden as his vice president, Biden now among the Democratic candidates for president in 2020)

Tubbs Jones died at 58 on Aug 20, 2008, at the prime of her political career. Her death took greater Cleveland by storm where thousands attended her memorial service in Cleveland, including Sen. Obama, Michelle Obama, vice presidential Democratic Nominee Sen. Joe Biden, Sen. Clinton, former President Bill Clinton, Congressional Black Caucus Chairperson Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick, Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland, Cleveland Mayor Frank Jackson, retired U.S. Rep. Louis Stokes, and many of her constituents from the 11th Congressional District.